diff --git a/apps/client/src/common/components/progress-bar/ProgressBar.scss b/apps/client/src/common/components/progress-bar/ProgressBar.scss
index 73383cc25..21d502eab 100644
--- a/apps/client/src/common/components/progress-bar/ProgressBar.scss
+++ b/apps/client/src/common/components/progress-bar/ProgressBar.scss
@@ -9,10 +9,6 @@ $progress-bar-br: 3px;
   border-radius: $progress-bar-br;
   background-color: var(--timer-progress-bg-override, $viewer-card-bg-color);
   overflow: clip;
-
-  &--hidden {
-    display: none;
-  }
 }
 
 .progress-bar__indicator {
diff --git a/apps/client/src/common/components/progress-bar/ProgressBar.tsx b/apps/client/src/common/components/progress-bar/ProgressBar.tsx
index 8098a0e65..720704260 100644
--- a/apps/client/src/common/components/progress-bar/ProgressBar.tsx
+++ b/apps/client/src/common/components/progress-bar/ProgressBar.tsx
@@ -7,16 +7,15 @@ import './ProgressBar.scss';
 interface ProgressBarProps {
   current: MaybeNumber;
   duration: MaybeNumber;
-  hidden?: boolean;
   className?: string;
 }
 
 export default function ProgressBar(props: ProgressBarProps) {
-  const { current, duration, hidden, className = '' } = props;
+  const { current, duration, className } = props;
   const progress = getProgress(current, duration);
 
   return (
-    <div className={`progress-bar__bg ${hidden ? 'progress-bar__bg--hidden' : ''} ${className}`}>
+    <div className={`progress-bar__bg ${className}`}>
       <div className='progress-bar__indicator' style={{ width: `${progress}%` }} />
     </div>
   );
diff --git a/apps/client/src/common/components/state/Empty.module.scss b/apps/client/src/common/components/state/Empty.module.scss
index 193862ebc..9f0e9436f 100644
--- a/apps/client/src/common/components/state/Empty.module.scss
+++ b/apps/client/src/common/components/state/Empty.module.scss
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
 
   .empty {
     width: 100%;
-    opacity: 0.6;
+    opacity: 0.8;
   }
 
   .text {
diff --git a/apps/client/src/common/components/view-logo/ViewLogo.scss b/apps/client/src/common/components/view-logo/ViewLogo.scss
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..f2b2491a9
--- /dev/null
+++ b/apps/client/src/common/components/view-logo/ViewLogo.scss
@@ -0,0 +1,5 @@
+.viewLogo {
+  max-width: 100%;
+  max-height: 100%;
+  display: block;
+}
diff --git a/apps/client/src/common/components/view-logo/ViewLogo.tsx b/apps/client/src/common/components/view-logo/ViewLogo.tsx
index 6ddde4593..6ed80ae1f 100644
--- a/apps/client/src/common/components/view-logo/ViewLogo.tsx
+++ b/apps/client/src/common/components/view-logo/ViewLogo.tsx
@@ -1,5 +1,7 @@
 import { projectLogoPath } from '../../api/constants';
 
+import './ViewLogo.scss';
+
 interface ViewLogoProps {
   name: string;
   className: string;
@@ -7,5 +9,11 @@ interface ViewLogoProps {
 
 export default function ViewLogo(props: ViewLogoProps) {
   const { name, className } = props;
-  return <img alt='' src={`${projectLogoPath}/${name}`} className={className} />;
+
+  // we wrap the image in a div to help maintain the aspect ratio
+  return (
+    <div className={className}>
+      <img alt='' src={`${projectLogoPath}/${name}`} className='viewLogo' />
+    </div>
+  );
 }
diff --git a/apps/client/src/views/backstage/Backstage.scss b/apps/client/src/views/backstage/Backstage.scss
index 4955104bc..f914a84fd 100644
--- a/apps/client/src/views/backstage/Backstage.scss
+++ b/apps/client/src/views/backstage/Backstage.scss
@@ -12,6 +12,7 @@
   color: var(--color-override, $viewer-color);
   gap: $view-element-gap;
   padding: $view-outer-padding;
+  font-size: $base-font-size;
 
   display: grid;
   grid-template-columns: 1fr 40vw;
@@ -28,6 +29,7 @@
     left: 0;
     right: 0;
     margin-top: 25vh;
+    color: var(--label-color-override, $viewer-label-color);
   }
 
   /* =================== HEADER + EXTRAS ===================*/
@@ -82,16 +84,6 @@
     gap: $view-element-gap;
   }
 
-  .empty {
-    font-size: clamp(24px, 2vw, 32px);
-    width: 100%;
-    height: 100%;
-    display: grid;
-    place-content: center;
-    text-align: center;
-    color: var(--label-color-override, $viewer-label-color);
-  }
-
   .event {
     background-color: var(--card-background-color-override, $viewer-card-bg-color);
     padding: $view-card-padding;
@@ -106,7 +98,6 @@
   }
 
   .timer-group {
-    grid-area: timer;
     border-top: 2px solid var(--background-color-override, $viewer-background-color);
     margin-top: max(1vh, 16px);
     padding-top: max(1vh, 16px);
@@ -119,7 +110,7 @@
     max-width: 7.5em;
   }
 
-  .aux-timers {
+  .time-entry {
     &__label {
       font-size: $timer-label-size;
       color: var(--label-color-override, $viewer-label-color);
@@ -207,14 +198,27 @@
       right: 0;
     }
 
+    .schedule-nav-container {
+      padding-left: 0;
+      justify-content: center;
+    }
+
     .schedule-container {
-      margin-left: 0;
+      padding-left: 0;
       flex: 1;
     }
 
     .info {
-      flex: 1;
       width: 100%;
+      text-align: right;
+    }
+
+    .qr {
+      display: none;
+    }
+
+    .info--stretch {
+      flex: 1;
     }
   }
 }
diff --git a/apps/client/src/views/backstage/Backstage.tsx b/apps/client/src/views/backstage/Backstage.tsx
index eb89b66c5..6795a5db1 100644
--- a/apps/client/src/views/backstage/Backstage.tsx
+++ b/apps/client/src/views/backstage/Backstage.tsx
@@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ import { cx, timerPlaceholderMin } from '../../common/utils/styleUtils';
 import { formatTime, getDefaultFormat } from '../../common/utils/time';
 import SuperscriptTime from '../../features/viewers/common/superscript-time/SuperscriptTime';
 import { useTranslation } from '../../translation/TranslationProvider';
-import BackstageSchedule from '../common/schedule/BackstageSchedule';
+import ScheduleExport from '../common/schedule/ScheduleExport';
 
 import { getBackstageOptions, useBackstageOptions } from './backstage.options';
 import { getCardData, getIsPendingStart, getShowProgressBar, isOvertime } from './backstage.utils';
@@ -68,6 +68,7 @@ export default function Backstage(props: BackstageProps) {
   }, [selectedId]);
 
   // gather card data
+  const hasEvents = backstageEvents.length > 0;
   const { showNow, nowMain, nowSecondary, showNext, nextMain, nextSecondary } = getCardData(
     eventNow,
     eventNext,
@@ -80,16 +81,18 @@ export default function Backstage(props: BackstageProps) {
   const clock = formatTime(time.clock);
   const isPendingStart = getIsPendingStart(time.playback, time.phase);
   const startedAt = isPendingStart ? formatTime(time.secondaryTimer) : formatTime(time.startedAt);
-  const scheduledStart = showNow ? '' : formatTime(runtime.plannedStart, { format12: 'hh:mm a', format24: 'HH:mm' });
-  const scheduledEnd = showNow ? '' : formatTime(runtime.plannedEnd, { format12: 'hh:mm a', format24: 'HH:mm' });
+  const scheduledStart =
+    hasEvents && showNow ? '' : formatTime(runtime.plannedStart, { format12: 'hh:mm a', format24: 'HH:mm' });
+  const scheduledEnd =
+    hasEvents && showNow ? '' : formatTime(runtime.plannedEnd, { format12: 'hh:mm a', format24: 'HH:mm' });
 
-  let stageTimer = millisToString(time.current, { fallback: timerPlaceholderMin });
-  stageTimer = removeLeadingZero(stageTimer);
+  let displayTimer = millisToString(time.current, { fallback: timerPlaceholderMin });
+  displayTimer = removeLeadingZero(displayTimer);
 
   // gather presentation styles
   const qrSize = Math.max(window.innerWidth / 15, 72);
   const showProgress = getShowProgressBar(time.playback);
-  const showSchedule = screenHeight > 700; // in vertical screens we may not have space
+  const showSchedule = hasEvents && screenHeight > 700; // in vertical screens we may not have space
 
   // gather option data
   const defaultFormat = getDefaultFormat(settings?.timeFormat);
@@ -107,71 +110,66 @@ export default function Backstage(props: BackstageProps) {
         </div>
       </div>
 
-      <ProgressBar
-        className='progress-container'
-        current={time.current}
-        duration={time.duration}
-        hidden={!showProgress}
-      />
+      {showProgress && <ProgressBar className='progress-container' current={time.current} duration={time.duration} />}
 
-      {backstageEvents.length === 0 && (
-        <div className='empty-container'>
-          <Empty text={getLocalizedString('common.no_data')} />
-        </div>
-      )}
+      {!hasEvents && <Empty text={getLocalizedString('common.no_data')} className='empty-container' />}
 
       <div className='card-container'>
-        {showNow ? (
+        {showNow && (
           <div className={cx(['event', 'now', blinkClass && 'blink'])}>
             <TitleCard title={nowMain} secondary={nowSecondary} />
             <div className='timer-group'>
-              <div className='aux-timers'>
-                <div className={cx(['aux-timers__label', isPendingStart && 'aux-timers--pending'])}>
+              <div className='time-entry'>
+                <div className={cx(['time-entry__label', isPendingStart && 'time-entry--pending'])}>
                   {isPendingStart ? getLocalizedString('countdown.waiting') : getLocalizedString('common.started_at')}
                 </div>
-                <SuperscriptTime time={startedAt} className='aux-timers__value' />
+                <SuperscriptTime time={startedAt} className='time-entry__value' />
               </div>
               <div className='timer-gap' />
-              <div className='aux-timers'>
-                <div className='aux-timers__label'>{getLocalizedString('common.expected_finish')}</div>
+              <div className='time-entry'>
+                <div className='time-entry__label'>{getLocalizedString('common.expected_finish')}</div>
                 {isOvertime(time.current) ? (
-                  <div className='aux-timers__value'>{getLocalizedString('countdown.overtime')}</div>
+                  <div className='time-entry__value'>{getLocalizedString('countdown.overtime')}</div>
                 ) : (
-                  <SuperscriptTime time={formatTime(time.expectedFinish)} className='aux-timers__value' />
+                  <SuperscriptTime time={formatTime(time.expectedFinish)} className='time-entry__value' />
                 )}
               </div>
               <div className='timer-gap' />
-              <div className='aux-timers'>
-                <div className='aux-timers__label'>{getLocalizedString('common.stage_timer')}</div>
-                <div className='aux-timers__value'>{stageTimer}</div>
-              </div>
-            </div>
-          </div>
-        ) : (
-          <div className='event'>
-            <div className='title-card__placeholder'>{getLocalizedString('countdown.waiting')}</div>
-            <div className='timer-group'>
-              <div className='aux-timers'>
-                <div className={cx(['aux-timers__label', isPendingStart && 'aux-timers--pending'])}>
-                  {getLocalizedString('common.scheduled_start')}
-                </div>
-                <SuperscriptTime time={scheduledStart} className='aux-timers__value' />
-              </div>
-              <div className='timer-gap' />
-              <div className='aux-timers'>
-                <div className='aux-timers__label'>{getLocalizedString('common.scheduled_end')}</div>
-                <SuperscriptTime time={scheduledEnd} className='aux-timers__value' />
+              <div className='time-entry'>
+                <div className='time-entry__label'>{getLocalizedString('common.stage_timer')}</div>
+                <div className='time-entry__value'>{displayTimer}</div>
               </div>
             </div>
           </div>
         )}
 
-        {showNext && <TitleCard className='event' label='next' title={nextMain} secondary={nextSecondary} />}
+        {!showNow && hasEvents && (
+          <div className='event'>
+            <div className='title-card__placeholder'>{getLocalizedString('countdown.waiting')}</div>
+            <div className='timer-group'>
+              <div className='time-entry'>
+                <div className={cx(['time-entry__label', isPendingStart && 'time-entry--pending'])}>
+                  {getLocalizedString('common.scheduled_start')}
+                </div>
+                <SuperscriptTime time={scheduledStart} className='time-entry__value' />
+              </div>
+              <div className='timer-gap' />
+              <div className='time-entry'>
+                <div className='time-entry__label'>{getLocalizedString('common.scheduled_end')}</div>
+                <SuperscriptTime time={scheduledEnd} className='time-entry__value' />
+              </div>
+            </div>
+          </div>
+        )}
+
+        {showNext && hasEvents && (
+          <TitleCard className='event' label='next' title={nextMain} secondary={nextSecondary} />
+        )}
       </div>
 
-      {showSchedule && <BackstageSchedule selectedId={selectedId} />}
+      {showSchedule && <ScheduleExport selectedId={selectedId} isBackstage />}
 
-      <div className='info'>
+      <div className={cx(['info', !showSchedule && 'info--stretch'])}>
         {general.backstageUrl && <QRCode value={general.backstageUrl} size={qrSize} level='L' className='qr' />}
         {general.backstageInfo && <div className='info__message'>{general.backstageInfo}</div>}
       </div>
diff --git a/apps/client/src/views/backstage/backstage.options.ts b/apps/client/src/views/backstage/backstage.options.ts
index ccf4f94e3..a0b2b414b 100644
--- a/apps/client/src/views/backstage/backstage.options.ts
+++ b/apps/client/src/views/backstage/backstage.options.ts
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ import {
   OptionTitle,
 } from '../../common/components/view-params-editor/constants';
 import { ViewOption } from '../../common/components/view-params-editor/types';
-import { isStringBoolean } from '../../features/viewers/common/viewUtils';
+import { scheduleOptions } from '../common/schedule/schedule.options';
 
 export const getBackstageOptions = (timeFormat: string, customFields: CustomFields): ViewOption[] => {
   const secondaryOptions = makeOptionsFromCustomFields(customFields, { note: 'Note' });
@@ -29,26 +29,7 @@ export const getBackstageOptions = (timeFormat: string, customFields: CustomFiel
         },
       ],
     },
-    {
-      title: OptionTitle.Schedule,
-      collapsible: true,
-      options: [
-        {
-          id: 'stopCycle',
-          title: 'Stop cycling through event pages',
-          description: 'Schedule will not auto-cycle through events',
-          type: 'boolean',
-          defaultValue: false,
-        },
-        {
-          id: 'cycleInterval',
-          title: 'Cycle interval',
-          description: 'How long (in seconds) should each schedule page be shown.',
-          type: 'number',
-          defaultValue: 10,
-        },
-      ],
-    },
+    scheduleOptions,
   ];
 };
 
@@ -75,24 +56,3 @@ export function useBackstageOptions(): BackstageOptions {
   const options = useMemo(() => getOptionsFromParams(searchParams), [searchParams]);
   return options;
 }
-
-type ScheduleOptions = {
-  cycleInterval: number;
-  stopCycle: boolean;
-};
-
-function getScheduleOptionsFromParams(searchParams: URLSearchParams): ScheduleOptions {
-  return {
-    cycleInterval: Number(searchParams.get('cycleInterval')) || 10,
-    stopCycle: isStringBoolean(searchParams.get('stopCycle')),
-  };
-}
-
-/**
- * Hook exposes the schedule component options
- */
-export function useScheduleOptions() {
-  const [searchParams] = useSearchParams();
-  const options = useMemo(() => getScheduleOptionsFromParams(searchParams), [searchParams]);
-  return options;
-}
diff --git a/apps/client/src/views/backstage/backstage.utils.ts b/apps/client/src/views/backstage/backstage.utils.ts
index 03086b3c5..7e5e5992a 100644
--- a/apps/client/src/views/backstage/backstage.utils.ts
+++ b/apps/client/src/views/backstage/backstage.utils.ts
@@ -1,5 +1,6 @@
 import { MaybeNumber, OntimeEvent, Playback, TimerPhase } from 'ontime-types';
 
+import { enDash } from '../../common/utils/styleUtils';
 import { getPropertyValue } from '../../features/viewers/common/viewUtils';
 
 /**
@@ -45,16 +46,16 @@ export function getCardData(
   }
 
   // if we are loaded, we show the upcoming event as next
-  const nowMain = getPropertyValue(eventNow, mainSource ?? 'title');
+  const nowMain = getPropertyValue(eventNow, mainSource ?? 'title') || enDash;
   const nowSecondary = getPropertyValue(eventNow, secondarySource);
-  const nextMain = getPropertyValue(eventNext, mainSource ?? 'title');
+  const nextMain = getPropertyValue(eventNext, mainSource ?? 'title') || enDash;
   const nextSecondary = getPropertyValue(eventNext, secondarySource);
 
   return {
-    showNow: Boolean(nowMain) || Boolean(nowSecondary),
+    showNow: eventNow !== null,
     nowMain,
     nowSecondary,
-    showNext: Boolean(nextMain) || Boolean(nextSecondary),
+    showNext: eventNext !== null,
     nextMain,
     nextSecondary,
   };
diff --git a/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/PublicSchedule.tsx b/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/PublicSchedule.tsx
deleted file mode 100644
index b6c16d815..000000000
--- a/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/PublicSchedule.tsx
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,21 +0,0 @@
-import { memo } from 'react';
-import { MaybeString } from 'ontime-types';
-
-import Schedule from './Schedule';
-import { ScheduleProvider } from './ScheduleContext';
-import ScheduleNav from './ScheduleNav';
-
-interface PublicScheduleProps {
-  selectedId: MaybeString;
-}
-
-export default memo(PublicSchedule);
-function PublicSchedule(props: PublicScheduleProps) {
-  const { selectedId } = props;
-  return (
-    <ScheduleProvider selectedEventId={selectedId}>
-      <ScheduleNav className='schedule-nav-container' />
-      <Schedule className='schedule-container' />
-    </ScheduleProvider>
-  );
-}
diff --git a/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/Schedule.scss b/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/Schedule.scss
index ce83872f8..0984ddc8e 100644
--- a/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/Schedule.scss
+++ b/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/Schedule.scss
@@ -1,5 +1,8 @@
 @use '../../../theme/viewerDefs' as *;
 
+$circle-size: clamp(8px, 0.75vw, 12px);
+$indeterminate-width: clamp(32px, 3vw, 48px);
+
 .schedule {
   width: 100%;
   position: relative;
@@ -17,9 +20,9 @@
 
   .entry-colour {
     background-color: var(--card-background-color-override, $viewer-card-bg-color);
-    height: clamp(8px, 0.75vw, 12px);
-    width: clamp(8px, 0.75vw, 12px);
-    border-radius: 6px;
+    height: $circle-size;
+    width: $circle-size;
+    border-radius: $component-border-radius-full;
     margin-right: 0.25rem;
   }
 
@@ -49,7 +52,6 @@
   }
 
   .entry-title {
-    font-size: clamp(16px, 1.5vw, 24px);
     font-size: $base-font-size;
     line-height: 1.2em;
   }
@@ -62,10 +64,10 @@
     background-color: var(--color-override, $viewer-color);
     opacity: 0.2;
 
-    height: clamp(8px, 0.75vw, 12px);
-    width: clamp(8px, 0.75vw, 12px);
-    border-radius: 6px;
-    margin-right: 8px;
+    height: $circle-size;
+    width: $circle-size;
+    border-radius: $component-border-radius-full;
+    margin-right: 0.5em;
 
     transition-property: opacity;
     transition-duration: 1s;
@@ -77,7 +79,7 @@
     }
 
     &--indeterminate {
-      width: clamp(32px, 3vw, 48px);
+      width: $indeterminate-width;
     }
   }
 }
diff --git a/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/ScheduleContext.tsx b/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/ScheduleContext.tsx
index a690c3d76..1f57d7698 100644
--- a/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/ScheduleContext.tsx
+++ b/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/ScheduleContext.tsx
@@ -11,7 +11,8 @@ import {
 import { isOntimeEvent, OntimeEvent, OntimeRundownEntry } from 'ontime-types';
 
 import { usePartialRundown } from '../../../common/hooks-query/useRundown';
-import { useScheduleOptions } from '../../backstage/backstage.options';
+
+import { useScheduleOptions } from './schedule.options';
 
 interface ScheduleContextState {
   events: OntimeEvent[];
@@ -51,6 +52,7 @@ export const ScheduleProvider = ({
 
   const containerRef = useRef<HTMLUListElement>(null);
 
+  // After the view is rendered, we paginate by hiding elements that dont fit
   useLayoutEffect(() => {
     if (!containerRef.current) return;
 
diff --git a/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/BackstageSchedule.tsx b/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/ScheduleExport.tsx
similarity index 59%
rename from apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/BackstageSchedule.tsx
rename to apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/ScheduleExport.tsx
index f29790b6b..2e39fd4d2 100644
--- a/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/BackstageSchedule.tsx
+++ b/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/ScheduleExport.tsx
@@ -5,17 +5,18 @@ import Schedule from './Schedule';
 import { ScheduleProvider } from './ScheduleContext';
 import ScheduleNav from './ScheduleNav';
 
-interface BackstageScheduleProps {
+interface ScheduleExportProps {
   selectedId: MaybeString;
+  isBackstage?: boolean;
 }
 
-export default memo(BackstageSchedule);
-function BackstageSchedule(props: BackstageScheduleProps) {
-  const { selectedId } = props;
+export default memo(ScheduleExport);
+function ScheduleExport(props: ScheduleExportProps) {
+  const { selectedId, isBackstage } = props;
   return (
     <ScheduleProvider selectedEventId={selectedId} isBackstage>
       <ScheduleNav className='schedule-nav-container' />
-      <Schedule isProduction className='schedule-container' />
+      <Schedule isProduction={isBackstage} className='schedule-container' />
     </ScheduleProvider>
   );
 }
diff --git a/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/ScheduleItem.tsx b/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/ScheduleItem.tsx
index b67c06a99..f2ffb8b2f 100644
--- a/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/ScheduleItem.tsx
+++ b/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/ScheduleItem.tsx
@@ -35,13 +35,13 @@ export default function ScheduleItem(props: ScheduleItemProps) {
           <span className='entry-times--delayed'>
             <span className='entry-colour' style={{ backgroundColor: colour }} />
             <SuperscriptTime time={start} />
-            {' → '}
+            →
             <SuperscriptTime time={end} />
             {backstageEvent && '*'}
           </span>
           <span className='entry-times--delay'>
             <SuperscriptTime time={delayedStart} />
-            {' → '}
+            →
             <SuperscriptTime time={delayedEnd} />
             {backstageEvent && '*'}
           </span>
@@ -56,7 +56,7 @@ export default function ScheduleItem(props: ScheduleItemProps) {
       <div className='entry-times'>
         <span className='entry-colour' style={{ backgroundColor: colour }} />
         <SuperscriptTime time={start} />
-        {' → '}
+        →
         <SuperscriptTime time={end} />
         {backstageEvent && '*'}
       </div>
diff --git a/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/schedule.options.ts b/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/schedule.options.ts
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..b70fc15b9
--- /dev/null
+++ b/apps/client/src/views/common/schedule/schedule.options.ts
@@ -0,0 +1,48 @@
+import { useMemo } from 'react';
+import { useSearchParams } from 'react-router-dom';
+
+import { OptionTitle } from '../../../common/components/view-params-editor/constants';
+import { ViewOption } from '../../../common/components/view-params-editor/types';
+import { isStringBoolean } from '../../../features/viewers/common/viewUtils';
+
+export const scheduleOptions: ViewOption = {
+  title: OptionTitle.Schedule,
+  collapsible: true,
+  options: [
+    {
+      id: 'stopCycle',
+      title: 'Stop cycling through event pages',
+      description: 'Schedule will not auto-cycle through events',
+      type: 'boolean',
+      defaultValue: false,
+    },
+    {
+      id: 'cycleInterval',
+      title: 'Cycle interval',
+      description: 'How long (in seconds) should each schedule page be shown.',
+      type: 'number',
+      defaultValue: 10,
+    },
+  ],
+};
+
+type ScheduleOptions = {
+  cycleInterval: number;
+  stopCycle: boolean;
+};
+
+function getScheduleOptionsFromParams(searchParams: URLSearchParams): ScheduleOptions {
+  return {
+    cycleInterval: Number(searchParams.get('cycleInterval')) || 10,
+    stopCycle: isStringBoolean(searchParams.get('stopCycle')),
+  };
+}
+
+/**
+ * Hook exposes the schedule component options
+ */
+export function useScheduleOptions() {
+  const [searchParams] = useSearchParams();
+  const options = useMemo(() => getScheduleOptionsFromParams(searchParams), [searchParams]);
+  return options;
+}
diff --git a/apps/client/src/views/public/Public.scss b/apps/client/src/views/public/Public.scss
index e4c577677..7a020b7a6 100644
--- a/apps/client/src/views/public/Public.scss
+++ b/apps/client/src/views/public/Public.scss
@@ -10,23 +10,32 @@
   font-family: var(--font-family-override, $viewer-font-family);
   background: var(--background-color-override, $viewer-background-color);
   color: var(--color-override, $viewer-color);
-  gap: min(2vh, 16px);
-  padding: min(2vh, 16px) clamp(16px, 10vw, 64px);
+  gap: $view-element-gap;
+  padding: $view-outer-padding;
+  font-size: $base-font-size;
 
   display: grid;
-  grid-template-columns: 1fr 1fr 40vw;
+  grid-template-columns: 1fr 40vw;
   grid-template-rows: auto 12px 1fr auto;
   grid-template-areas:
-    ' header    header    header'
-    ' progress  progress  schedule-nav'
-    ' now       now       schedule'
-    ' info      info      schedule';
+    'header    header'
+    'now       schedule-nav'
+    'info      schedule';
+
+  .empty-container {
+    position: absolute;
+    top: 0;
+    left: 0;
+    right: 0;
+    margin-top: 25vh;
+    color: var(--label-color-override, $viewer-label-color);
+  }
 
   /* =================== HEADER + EXTRAS ===================*/
 
   .project-header {
     grid-area: header;
-    font-size: clamp(32px, 4.5vw, 64px);
+    font-size: $header-font-size;
     font-weight: 600;
     display: flex;
     gap: 1rem;
@@ -37,18 +46,22 @@
     max-height: min(100px, 20vh);
   }
 
+  .title {
+    line-height: 1.1em;
+  }
+
   .clock-container {
     margin-left: auto;
+    font-weight: 600;
 
     .label {
-      font-size: clamp(16px, 1.5vw, 24px);
-      font-weight: 600;
+      font-size: $timer-label-size;
       color: var(--label-color-override, $viewer-label-color);
       text-transform: uppercase;
     }
 
     .time {
-      font-size: clamp(32px, 3.5vw, 50px);
+      font-size: $timer-value-size;
       color: var(--secondary-color-override, $viewer-secondary-color);
       letter-spacing: 0.05em;
       line-height: 0.95em;
@@ -57,50 +70,136 @@
 
   /* =================== MAIN - NOW ===================*/
 
-  .now-container {
+  .card-container {
     grid-area: now;
     display: flex;
     flex-direction: column;
-    gap: min(2vh, 16px);
+    gap: $view-element-gap;
   }
 
   .event {
     background-color: var(--card-background-color-override, $viewer-card-bg-color);
-    padding: 16px 24px;
-    border-radius: 8px;
+    padding: $view-card-padding;
+    border-radius: $element-border-radius;
+  }
+
+  .timer-group {
+    border-top: 2px solid var(--background-color-override, $viewer-background-color);
+    margin-top: max(1vh, 16px);
+    padding-top: max(1vh, 16px);
+    display: flex;
+    row-gap: 0.5em;
+  }
+
+  .time-entry {
+    &__label {
+      font-size: $timer-label-size;
+      color: var(--label-color-override, $viewer-label-color);
+      font-weight: 600;
+      text-transform: uppercase;
+    }
+
+    &__value {
+      font-size: $base-font-size;
+      color: var(--secondary-color-override, $viewer-secondary-color);
+      letter-spacing: 0.05em;
+      line-height: 0.95em;
+    }
+
+    &--pending {
+      color: var(--timer-pending-color-override, $ontime-roll);
+    }
   }
 
   /* =================== MAIN - SCHEDULE ===================*/
 
+  $schedule-left-spacing: clamp(16px, 4vw, 64px);
   .schedule-container {
     grid-area: schedule;
     overflow: hidden;
     height: 100%;
-    margin-left: clamp(16px, 5vw, 64px);
+    padding-left: $schedule-left-spacing;
   }
 
   .schedule-nav-container {
     grid-area: schedule-nav;
-    align-self: center;
+    padding-left: $schedule-left-spacing;
   }
 
+  /* =================== MAIN - INFO ===================*/
+
   .info {
     grid-area: info;
     display: flex;
     gap: max(1vw, 16px);
+    align-self: flex-end;
     overflow: hidden;
+    align-items: end;
 
     &__message {
-      font-size: clamp(16px, 1.5vw, 24px);
-      line-height: 1.3em;
+      font-size: $base-font-size;
+      line-height: 1.2em;
       white-space: pre-line;
       overflow: hidden;
       flex: 1;
     }
 
     .qr {
-      padding: 4px;
-      background-color: white;
+      padding: 0.5rem;
+      background-color: $ui-white;
+      border-radius: 2px;
+    }
+  }
+}
+
+/* =================== MOBILE ===================*/
+@media screen and (max-width: 768px) {
+  .public-screen {
+    display: flex;
+    flex-direction: column;
+    overflow-y: auto;
+
+    .project-header {
+      flex-direction: column;
+      position: relative;
+      gap: 0.5rem;
+    }
+
+    .logo {
+      height: min(50px, 10vh);
+    }
+
+    .timer-group {
+      flex-wrap: wrap;
+    }
+
+    .clock-container {
+      position: absolute;
+      top: 0;
+      right: 0;
+    }
+
+    .schedule-nav-container {
+      padding-left: 0;
+      justify-content: center;
+    }
+  
+    .schedule-container {
+      padding-left: 0;
+      flex: 1;
+    }
+
+    .info {
+      width: 100%;
+      text-align: right;
+    }
+
+    .qr {
+      display: none;
+    }
+
+    .info--stretch {
+      flex: 1;
     }
   }
 }
diff --git a/apps/client/src/views/public/Public.tsx b/apps/client/src/views/public/Public.tsx
index 3f174100a..aae5dd7b9 100644
--- a/apps/client/src/views/public/Public.tsx
+++ b/apps/client/src/views/public/Public.tsx
@@ -1,28 +1,28 @@
 import QRCode from 'react-qr-code';
-import { useSearchParams } from 'react-router-dom';
-import { AnimatePresence, motion } from 'framer-motion';
+import { useViewportSize } from '@mantine/hooks';
 import { CustomFields, OntimeEvent, ProjectData, Settings } from 'ontime-types';
 
+import Empty from '../../common/components/state/Empty';
 import TitleCard from '../../common/components/title-card/TitleCard';
 import ViewLogo from '../../common/components/view-logo/ViewLogo';
 import ViewParamsEditor from '../../common/components/view-params-editor/ViewParamsEditor';
 import { useWindowTitle } from '../../common/hooks/useWindowTitle';
 import { ViewExtendedTimer } from '../../common/models/TimeManager.type';
+import { cx } from '../../common/utils/styleUtils';
 import { formatTime, getDefaultFormat } from '../../common/utils/time';
 import SuperscriptTime from '../../features/viewers/common/superscript-time/SuperscriptTime';
-import { getPropertyValue } from '../../features/viewers/common/viewUtils';
 import { useTranslation } from '../../translation/TranslationProvider';
-import PublicSchedule from '../common/schedule/PublicSchedule';
-import { titleVariants } from '../timer/timer.animations';
+import { getIsPendingStart } from '../backstage/backstage.utils';
+import ScheduleExport from '../common/schedule/ScheduleExport';
 
-import { getPublicOptions } from './public.options';
+import { getPublicOptions, usePublicOptions } from './public.options';
+import { getCardData, getFirstStartTime } from './public.utils';
 
 import './Public.scss';
 
-export const MotionTitleCard = motion(TitleCard);
-
 interface BackstageProps {
   customFields: CustomFields;
+  events: OntimeEvent[];
   general: ProjectData;
   isMirrored: boolean;
   publicEventNow: OntimeEvent | null;
@@ -33,73 +33,86 @@ interface BackstageProps {
 }
 
 export default function Public(props: BackstageProps) {
-  const { customFields, general, isMirrored, publicEventNow, publicEventNext, time, publicSelectedId, settings } =
-    props;
+  const {
+    customFields,
+    events,
+    general,
+    isMirrored,
+    publicEventNow,
+    publicEventNext,
+    time,
+    publicSelectedId,
+    settings,
+  } = props;
 
   const { getLocalizedString } = useTranslation();
-  const [searchParams] = useSearchParams();
+  const { secondarySource } = usePublicOptions();
+  const { height: screenHeight } = useViewportSize();
 
   useWindowTitle('Public Schedule');
 
-  const clock = formatTime(time.clock);
-  const qrSize = Math.max(window.innerWidth / 15, 128);
+  // gather card data
+  const hasEvents = events.length > 0;
+  const { showNow, nowMain, nowSecondary, showNext, nextMain, nextSecondary } = getCardData(
+    publicEventNow,
+    publicEventNext,
+    'title',
+    secondarySource,
+    time.playback,
+  );
 
+  // gather timer data
+  const clock = formatTime(time.clock);
+  const isPendingStart = getIsPendingStart(time.playback, time.phase);
+  const scheduledStart = hasEvents && showNow ? '' : getFirstStartTime(events[0]);
+
+  // gather presentation styles
+  const qrSize = Math.max(window.innerWidth / 15, 72);
+  const showSchedule = hasEvents && screenHeight > 700; // in vertical screens we may not have space
+
+  // gather option data
   const defaultFormat = getDefaultFormat(settings?.timeFormat);
   const publicOptions = getPublicOptions(defaultFormat, customFields);
 
-  const secondarySource = searchParams.get('secondary-src');
-  const secondaryTextNext = getPropertyValue(publicEventNext, secondarySource);
-  const secondaryTextNow = getPropertyValue(publicEventNow, secondarySource);
-
   return (
     <div className={`public-screen ${isMirrored ? 'mirror' : ''}`} data-testid='public-view'>
       <ViewParamsEditor viewOptions={publicOptions} />
       <div className='project-header'>
-        {general?.projectLogo && <ViewLogo name={general.projectLogo} className='logo' />}
-        {general.title}
+        {general?.projectLogo ? <ViewLogo name={general.projectLogo} className='logo' /> : <div className='logo' />}
+        <div className='title'>{general.title}</div>
         <div className='clock-container'>
           <div className='label'>{getLocalizedString('common.time_now')}</div>
           <SuperscriptTime time={clock} className='time' />
         </div>
       </div>
 
-      <div className='now-container'>
-        <AnimatePresence>
-          {publicEventNow && (
-            <MotionTitleCard
-              className='event now'
-              key='now'
-              variants={titleVariants}
-              initial='hidden'
-              animate='visible'
-              exit='exit'
-              label='now'
-              title={publicEventNow.title}
-              secondary={secondaryTextNow}
-            />
-          )}
-        </AnimatePresence>
+      {!hasEvents && <Empty text={getLocalizedString('countdown.waiting')} className='empty-container' />}
 
-        <AnimatePresence>
-          {publicEventNext && (
-            <MotionTitleCard
-              className='event next'
-              key='next'
-              variants={titleVariants}
-              initial='hidden'
-              animate='visible'
-              exit='exit'
-              label='next'
-              title={publicEventNext.title}
-              secondary={secondaryTextNext}
-            />
-          )}
-        </AnimatePresence>
+      <div className='card-container'>
+        {showNow && hasEvents && (
+          <TitleCard className='event now' label='now' title={nowMain} secondary={nowSecondary} />
+        )}
+        {!showNow && scheduledStart && (
+          <div className='event'>
+            <div className='title-card__placeholder'>{getLocalizedString('countdown.waiting')}</div>
+            <div className='timer-group'>
+              <div className='time-entry'>
+                <div className={cx(['time-entry__label', isPendingStart && 'time-entry--pending'])}>
+                  {getLocalizedString('common.scheduled_start')}
+                </div>
+                <SuperscriptTime time={formatTime(scheduledStart)} className='time-entry__value' />
+              </div>
+            </div>
+          </div>
+        )}
+        {showNext && hasEvents && (
+          <TitleCard className='event next' label='next' title={nextMain} secondary={nextSecondary} />
+        )}
       </div>
 
-      <PublicSchedule selectedId={publicSelectedId} />
+      {showSchedule && <ScheduleExport selectedId={publicSelectedId} />}
 
-      <div className='info'>
+      <div className={cx(['info', !showSchedule && 'info--stretch'])}>
         {general.publicUrl && <QRCode value={general.publicUrl} size={qrSize} level='L' className='qr' />}
         {general.publicInfo && <div className='info__message'>{general.publicInfo}</div>}
       </div>
diff --git a/apps/client/src/views/public/public.options.ts b/apps/client/src/views/public/public.options.ts
index 210abf12e..821de86c1 100644
--- a/apps/client/src/views/public/public.options.ts
+++ b/apps/client/src/views/public/public.options.ts
@@ -1,4 +1,6 @@
-import { CustomFields } from 'ontime-types';
+import { useMemo } from 'react';
+import { useSearchParams } from 'react-router-dom';
+import { CustomFields, OntimeEvent } from 'ontime-types';
 
 import {
   getTimeOption,
@@ -6,6 +8,7 @@ import {
   OptionTitle,
 } from '../../common/components/view-params-editor/constants';
 import { ViewOption } from '../../common/components/view-params-editor/types';
+import { scheduleOptions } from '../common/schedule/schedule.options';
 
 export const getPublicOptions = (timeFormat: string, customFields: CustomFields): ViewOption[] => {
   const secondaryOptions = makeOptionsFromCustomFields(customFields, { note: 'Note' });
@@ -26,32 +29,30 @@ export const getPublicOptions = (timeFormat: string, customFields: CustomFields)
         },
       ],
     },
-    {
-      title: OptionTitle.Schedule,
-      collapsible: true,
-      options: [
-        {
-          id: 'eventsPerPage',
-          title: 'Events per page',
-          description: 'Sets the number of events on the page, can cause overflow',
-          type: 'number',
-          placeholder: '8 (default)',
-        },
-        {
-          id: 'hidePast',
-          title: 'Hide past events',
-          description: 'Scheduler will only show upcoming events',
-          type: 'boolean',
-          defaultValue: false,
-        },
-        {
-          id: 'stopCycle',
-          title: 'Stop cycling through event pages',
-          description: 'Schedule will not auto-cycle through events',
-          type: 'boolean',
-          defaultValue: false,
-        },
-      ],
-    },
+    scheduleOptions,
   ];
 };
+
+type PublicOptions = {
+  secondarySource: keyof OntimeEvent | null;
+};
+
+/**
+ * Utility extract the view options from URL Params
+ * the names and fallback are manually matched with timerOptions
+ */
+function getOptionsFromParams(searchParams: URLSearchParams): PublicOptions {
+  // we manually make an object that matches the key above
+  return {
+    secondarySource: searchParams.get('secondary-src') as keyof OntimeEvent | null,
+  };
+}
+
+/**
+ * Hook exposes the backstage view options
+ */
+export function usePublicOptions(): PublicOptions {
+  const [searchParams] = useSearchParams();
+  const options = useMemo(() => getOptionsFromParams(searchParams), [searchParams]);
+  return options;
+}
diff --git a/apps/client/src/views/public/public.utils.ts b/apps/client/src/views/public/public.utils.ts
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..a0b463b8b
--- /dev/null
+++ b/apps/client/src/views/public/public.utils.ts
@@ -0,0 +1,45 @@
+import { OntimeEvent, Playback } from 'ontime-types';
+
+import { enDash } from '../../common/utils/styleUtils';
+import { getPropertyValue } from '../../features/viewers/common/viewUtils';
+
+/**
+ * What should we be showing in the cards?
+ */
+export function getCardData(
+  eventNow: OntimeEvent | null,
+  eventNext: OntimeEvent | null,
+  mainSource: keyof OntimeEvent | null,
+  secondarySource: keyof OntimeEvent | null,
+  playback: Playback,
+) {
+  if (playback === Playback.Stop) {
+    return {
+      showNow: false,
+      nowMain: undefined,
+      nowSecondary: undefined,
+      showNext: false,
+      nextMain: undefined,
+      nextSecondary: undefined,
+    };
+  }
+
+  // if we are loaded, we show the upcoming event as next
+  const nowMain = getPropertyValue(eventNow, mainSource ?? 'title') || enDash;
+  const nowSecondary = getPropertyValue(eventNow, secondarySource);
+  const nextMain = getPropertyValue(eventNext, mainSource ?? 'title') || enDash;
+  const nextSecondary = getPropertyValue(eventNext, secondarySource);
+
+  return {
+    showNow: eventNow !== null,
+    nowMain,
+    nowSecondary,
+    showNext: eventNext !== null,
+    nextMain,
+    nextSecondary,
+  };
+}
+
+export function getFirstStartTime(firstPublicEvent: OntimeEvent | null): number | undefined {
+  return firstPublicEvent?.timeStart;
+}
diff --git a/e2e/tests/features/203-delay-block.spec.ts b/e2e/tests/features/203-delay-block.spec.ts
index 40af8d9b9..6b74df6f0 100644
--- a/e2e/tests/features/203-delay-block.spec.ts
+++ b/e2e/tests/features/203-delay-block.spec.ts
@@ -84,9 +84,9 @@ test('delays are show correctly', async ({ page }) => {
 
   // delay is NOT shown in the public view
   await page.goto('http://localhost:4001/public');
-  await page.getByText('00:10 → 00:20').click();
+  await page.getByText('00:10→00:20').click();
 
   // delay is shown in the backstage view
   await page.goto('http://localhost:4001/backstage');
-  await page.getByText('00:11 → 00:21').click();
+  await page.getByText('00:11→00:21').click();
 });